tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post5633642329109966685..comments2023-11-04T23:31:40.392-10:00Comments on got windmills?: PNN INVESTIGATIVE REPORT: KKCR- A STUDY IN BROWN AND WHITEAndy Parxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15398587036690312685noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-29321862451581365372008-04-28T15:33:00.000-10:002008-04-28T15:33:00.000-10:00but again the old adage of more flies with honey t...but again the old adage of more flies with honey than vinegar works in this instance. i'm w/roland on this one. there's many an ally that gets turned off and tuned out when we approach from a space that hard to relate/empathize with. would like to see roland's part 2 (in a reader's digest condensed version).with so much said, the point(s) get lost.<BR/>care to join us on air to give the story some legs? let's give the station a chance to respond. i'm game if you are. peace,.....jimmy tAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-18276883510789647832008-04-28T11:11:00.000-10:002008-04-28T11:11:00.000-10:00Andy,I couldn't agree with you more, and believe m...Andy,<BR/><BR/>I couldn't agree with you more, and believe me, I am not asking you to be more "objective"...why spoil the fun? As you point out, this veneer of "objectivity" is little more than a conceit and I appreciate your lack of such pretensions.<BR/><BR/><BR/>(and thank you Katy--point well taken)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-71926605304568984252008-04-28T10:35:00.000-10:002008-04-28T10:35:00.000-10:00Hi RolandI would like to make clear and re-iterate...Hi Roland<BR/><BR/>I would like to make clear and re-iterate a policy regarding journalism as I practice it. Objectivity in journalism is a myth. Reporters are people like everyone else and put their biases in every story merely by what they include and don’t include and especially the way they characterize facts how they string them together. People need to examine why one format make a story more believable if it’s in the standard format that hides the biases of the reporter. <BR/><BR/>That is probably the most ubiquitous and valid criticism of journalism and reporting- the hidden agenda. The fact that we give more credibility to a standard format new piece that hides the natural biases of the reporter and editor doesn’t say much for our critical reading and thinking ability but that doesn’t mean we all don’t do it.<BR/><BR/>I choose to make my biases clear as a bell so that readers will know and understand the perspective I’m bringing going in. That doesn’t mean I don’t do the same facts checking and agonize over every characterization I use to make sure it jibes 100% with the facts. It just means that I don’t go back over my piece and take out all the little words that show my biases in order to fake some kind of mythical “objectivity”, which is a contrivance and doesn’t exist in the first place. All that doing the latter does is to confuse the reader and turn the piece into veiled propaganda rather than allow readers to understand the context the writer is using.<BR/><BR/>I do appreciate the question though and the opportunity to discuss the matter.- thanks,<BR/>----------AAndy Parxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15398587036690312685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-76626967417788155292008-04-28T10:11:00.000-10:002008-04-28T10:11:00.000-10:00I have a real problem with people who make vicious...I have a real problem with people who make vicious attacks under the cloak of anonymity. You may not agree with Andy, Hale, Katy and Ka`iu, but at least they have the guts to speak out publicly.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-49094825654159842862008-04-28T09:40:00.000-10:002008-04-28T09:40:00.000-10:00There is nothing cowardly about pointing out Andy'...There is nothing cowardly about pointing out Andy's abusive behavior. It is Andy who is the coward by virtue of the manner in which he treated the female he was with that day. And this is not just a bad day. He has a long track record of being rude and abusive as many of these posts have pointed out.<BR/><BR/>I am surpised that Katy, our spokesperson for human rights and social justice, can dismiss this behavior as "a bad day". <BR/><BR/> Wake up Katy and tell Andy Parks to make his point without verbally abusing others. Isn't that what you are all about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-47286028728655348072008-04-28T08:37:00.000-10:002008-04-28T08:37:00.000-10:00Roland makes a good point. But I would argue that...Roland makes a good point. But I would argue that it takes many different voices, styles and perspectives to fill in the picture. Not every voice will be appealing to all. We all know Andy's style to be uncompromising. I certainly don't agree with all his positions, but I appreciate his willingness to say the unpopular things in a way that is challenging. <BR/><BR/>My inclination is to trust that (almost) everyone is bringing something of value to the table. It makes more sense to me to engage the issues, rather than the personalities of the people presenting them.<BR/><BR/>For example, I think the question of HOW we make change at KKCR is the important one. Andy advocates complete non-support, I think. I disagree with that approach and think there is a way to undermine the status quo by bringing more people into deep involvement in the process of change.<BR/><BR/>We will get further, I think, if we address these fundamental questions of strategy and tactics in place of critique of others' rhetorical styles. (Though I'm guilty of criticizing "style" myself: see above!)<BR/><BR/>-KatyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-33539761164716813632008-04-28T07:54:00.000-10:002008-04-28T07:54:00.000-10:00Andy,Thanks for standing up for freedom of speech,...Andy,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for standing up for freedom of speech, justice and the necessity in all of us for a more penetrating look into our own racism.<BR/><BR/>However, I question your methods in what you seem to want to achieve. You want KCCR to be more self-honest about their actions so the station can better serve the community and who can disagree with that...but you're not helping the situation. I understand that you are using the bias of your writing here to counterbalance the station management digging it's heels in. I understand that, but you're making it way too easy for people to ignore what you have to say. The more strident you get, the more disengaging the conversation becomes. You got a good message, but I have a hard time listening to it because of what comes off to me as oversimplifications and black-and-white reductionism of a complex situation.<BR/><BR/>Things do need to change at KKCR, that's clear, but do you really think this kind of reportage is going to result in that? You want people to be pissed off and a lot are, but what really motivates people in a positive, constructive way is a vision for the future that obviously works better. I'm not seeing that here—is that part two or is this it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-77910946265447306622008-04-28T05:08:00.000-10:002008-04-28T05:08:00.000-10:00These last two posts are pathetic! I know Andy's ...These last two posts are pathetic! I know Andy's just getting a laugh from them, but I have to say - are you constitutionally incapable of addressing the issues at hand? Or are you only able to attack individuals personally for completely unrelated things?<BR/><BR/>And is calling me "biased" supposed to be an insult? ("God bless America, the land of fresh scrubbed faces and no opinions. Just do what the boss/teacher/mom and dad tell you and don't ask questions! Fox news says it, we believe it, that settles it!")<BR/><BR/>How cowardly to point out Andy's behavior on a bad day - we've all had them - without giving your name so maybe someone could share an anecdote about you. C'mon - aren't you game for that?<BR/><BR/>I'll start with a story about myself. In an ironic and hypocritical lapse, I once negated all my work for social justice and peace by shouting at my toddler and my baby because I was exhausted and needed a shower and I couldn't get any rest. Neighbors in the Oakland apartment building where I lived could probably confirm this story. <BR/><BR/>Your turn.<BR/><BR/>-KatyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-32031691093740092892008-04-28T00:01:00.000-10:002008-04-28T00:01:00.000-10:00Hey Andy,I saw you in Costco some time ago with yo...Hey Andy,<BR/><BR/>I saw you in Costco some time ago with you wife/girlfriend. You were barking orders at her the whole time I saw you in the store. You treated her like she was some kind of animal. It was truly difficult to witness because she seemed to be totally subservient to you and your abusive behavior.<BR/><BR/>If you are so concerned about human rights and social justice perhaps you should start at home.<BR/><BR/>btw, I was really impressed by how you greeted the governor last year. You really did wonders for our cause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-63057959331443711492008-04-27T22:30:00.000-10:002008-04-27T22:30:00.000-10:00Your reporting is lengthy; but, that does not make...Your reporting is lengthy; but, that does not make it so. Instead of lighting a fire, it seems more like a smoke making machine wit a great deal of fuel.<BR/>Your story depends on the versions of Katy Rose,Hale Mawae, and Ka`iulani Edens-Huff. If you look at extremely biased to the point of idiotcy in the dictionary, there is simply a picture of Katy Rose - nothing else.<BR/>Hale Mawae was arrested twice last year for similar charges. This is an angry young man with a chip on his shoulder the size of the Big Island. I'd be careful tieing your kite to this one. He'll be in jail before he's 30, and for a long time.<BR/>Ka`iulani, according to the LA Times, is a bigoted racist scumbag. It's time to prove she was misquoted and completely discounts that story before we hear one single more word from her - THE SCUMBAG!<BR/>There's your story - reduced to its basic elements - you can thank God that guilt by association is not a felony.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-38894826553963242082008-04-27T18:54:00.000-10:002008-04-27T18:54:00.000-10:00Hi Andy, I understand your position on a boycott ...Hi Andy, I understand your position on a boycott - but it's true that I hope that many new members will join and reclaim ownership of the station by participating at every level possible.<BR/><BR/>I don't think that the current "regime" is going to give in to the "demands" due to a boycott of potential members. The fundraising which has been done for years using the same base of 750 members plus underwriters, etc., has been and will continue to work well enough, so the impetus to get new members is really not that great from board and management's standpoint. The "membership" drive rather than fund-drive theme happened because dissidents pushed for it out of a belief that more members, attracted because they want KKCR to change, would be one avenue to systemic change at the station. Not the only one, of course. <BR/><BR/>We're not anywhere near where we need to be, and the answer is ongoing grass-roots organizing.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for doing this writing on the subject, Andy, and for consistently standing up for a fair and just community radio.<BR/><BR/>-KatyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com