tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post7598768012220308042..comments2023-11-04T23:31:40.392-10:00Comments on got windmills?: MUTINY AT THE COUNTYAndy Parxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15398587036690312685noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-3485723722327624402009-07-25T11:44:42.394-10:002009-07-25T11:44:42.394-10:00A post at Joan Conrow’s KauaiEclectic http://kauai...A post at Joan Conrow’s KauaiEclectic http://kauaieclectic.blogspot.com/2009/07/musings-trade-offs.html has spurred much misconceptions in comments left. To clarify some things I just posted the following there.<br /><br />1) The full YRL for Tim and Lani’s site is<br />http://www.kauaiinfo.org/default.asp<br />It contains all you need to know.<br /><br />2) Many of us have spent years at the labyrinth of council meetings and know intimately all the procedures, rules laws etc including what staff and everyone else does - It’s not very hard if you pay a little attention. We’ve been complaining about these same things Tim and Lani are now saying- and a whole lot more that they will be bringing up as soon as these low hanging fruit are picked- and have met the stonewall from the Minotaurs consistently. Try it sometime- it just takes a little research a few questions and paying attention.<br /><br />3) Not only has Kaipo repeated for many years he doesn’t use a computer much less email, he repeated it at the meeting as I said in the first installment of my coverage yesterday<br />http://parxnewsdaily.blogspot.com/2009/07/mutiny-at-county.html I’ll have more soon.<br /><br />4) Kaipo is notoriously impossible to reach. even by phone. He never returns messages left at council services unless it’s from a fellow government official or crony. <br /><br />5) The fact is that meeting face to face meetings put councilmembers in jeopardy of violating the sunshine law if they talk about council related matter. On Thursday (watch the tape) Councilmembers Chang, Furfaro, Asing and Kaneshiro admitted breaking the law when discussing their past face to face meetings, admitting they committed to votes- which is illegal under all circumstances- and saying that they “met” to deliberate council matters in “groups” of more than two many times- mostly through what’s called “serial one on one conversations” which are equally forbidden. <br /><br />Knowing the sunshine law- and “getting it” unlike most councilmembers (even long time members)- Lani sought to avoid all this by being professional and more importantly transparent in sending on-the-record, publicly documented memos about her concerns and issue with the way Asing operates council services. If Kaipo wanted to meet face to face after all those memos and such from Lani he could easily of asked her. He even ignored proposed legislation she and Tim submitted. The fact is he never even acknowledged receiving any one of them which was the reason Lani and Tim went public with their concerns since it was the only way.<br /><br />6) When dwps says “i can understand why some people do not want to use (email), or just avoid it all together” because it leaves a paper trial, well that would only be if you are doing something shady or illegal.Andy Parxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15398587036690312685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-86994211100469740412009-07-25T08:51:21.091-10:002009-07-25T08:51:21.091-10:00Peggy is right, of course.
It would be rather m...Peggy is right, of course. <br /><br />It would be rather more pure entertainment, though, if it weren't for the terrible cringe effect.<br /><br />- A.H.Ace Harbingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09822845087169789308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-12630134886808355212009-07-25T08:27:53.856-10:002009-07-25T08:27:53.856-10:00andy,
what a show! hard to believe it was free and...andy,<br />what a show! hard to believe it was free and the best part is that its all gonna be different on monday. change we can believe in!<br /><br />breaking the ice for the public good; no wonder jay wanted to sing kumbaya. hallelujah says tim. dickie broke his silence and darryl admits to being old fashioned. nothing new in kaipo's assertion that he aint gonna hange after 27 years. his classic powerpoint explaining the mail proved that.<br />meanwhile drinking curfews in the park, platic bag reduction, bike paths on the beach all take a backseat in the best theater on the island. no can beat this kine drama! thnx hoike for providing the rerun for those in the cheap seats.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04778631335628923391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-21653466053283195272009-07-25T07:47:52.325-10:002009-07-25T07:47:52.325-10:00Well, well, well. What have we here?
Associated ...Well, well, well. What have we here?<br /><br />Associated Press <br />HILO, Hawaii — A state judge says members of the Hawaii County Council violated the state's open-government law by privately discussing a council reorganization plan.<br />Circuit Judge Ronald Ibarra on Thursday issued a temporary restraining order, forbidding the council from doing business. But he delayed the start of the TRO until Aug. 5 to give the council time to rectify the situation. <br />The council has scheduled a special meeting for Aug. 4 to cancel the reorganization. It also plans to rehear all measures it considered after the June 16 changes went into effect. <br />Ibarra's decision stemmed from a lawsuit filed July 10 by West Hawaii Today. The newspaper alleges the private discussions constituted a violation of the Sunshine Law.<br /><br />It may be that King Asing and the 3 D's are hearing the tolling in the distance.<br /><br />- A.H.Ace Harbingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09822845087169789308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441020117205433950.post-34118359692986531012009-07-24T18:09:47.026-10:002009-07-24T18:09:47.026-10:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mauibradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16759237357642699345noreply@blogger.com