Saturday, August 3, 2013

DIALOGUE? I GOTCHA DIALOGUE RIGHT HEA

We've been posting a lot of shorter "blubs" on Facebook ("Friend" us or follow on Facebook for more). Here are a few from this week...

DIALOGUE? I GOTCHA DIALOGUE RIGHT HEA...

Us- Why are you against disclosing where, when and what pesticides you are spraying?
Them- We have always disclosed them.
Us- No you haven't. We've tried for years and the only things we've gotten is recently in federal court due to our law suit. You've refused tell us. Dozens of people have asked and gotten nothing.
Them- Are you going to believe us or your lyin' eyes?

Us- Why are you against t...he bill? It's just asking for disclosure.
Them- The bill is unenforceable.
Us- So you mean even if we pass a law saying you have to tell us you're telling us you're not going to do so?
Them: Feed the world, bwak. Feed the world, bwak.

Them- There's no need for a Kaua`i law because there are already federal laws
Us- Yes but you refuse to follow them- we have proof.
Them- The label is the law- we follow the label.
Us- No you don't. There's RUPs in the schools right next to where you're spraying them. Our children are getting sick when you spray. We have doctors and nurses who have treated them. The label says you can't use them where children are likely to be.
Them- You can't prove anything.
Us- Yet.
Them- Science, bwak. Feed the world, bwak.


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A WORD ABOUT WHAT WE HEARD FROM BIOTECH EMPLOYEES AND THEIR ASSOCIATES AT THE 7/31 PUBLIC HEARING ON BILL 2941.

Just because you have a degree in an area of science- chemistry, biology etc.- it does not make you a scientist- i.e. one that is familiar with the scientific process and has scientific integrity. It makes you a technical engineer.

Nor does it magically confer ethical standards on you or to your work.

Real scientists do not take money from an industry and then conduct studies and give their scientific conclusions in that area... at least not without people laughing at them. Nor do they attest to the safety of their work or work product without eliciting self-same guffaws.

When the Biotech industry funds your research your conclusions in the area of Biotechnology are suspect at best and invalid according to real scientists with integrity.

And finally, something you don't need to be a scientist to understand- the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. When what "everybody agrees" to is voluntarily conducted research approved by federal agency boards stacked with former industry employees for the express purpose of declaring said safety (and so making more money), you don't have proof- you've got bullsh*t.

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ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE US OR YOUR LYIN' EYES?

Apparently with all the lies and obfuscations in the local TV and radio ads- such as "we use LESS pesticide" and "we're just simple farmers" and "all studies show safety"- the Biotrixters on Kaua`i are just going to ignore Monsanto's national PR strategy of "we didn't do it and we're not going to do it again." Here's how the NY Times described the campaign this week

This hilarious attempt to reverse years of lies and obfuscation by the now self-labeled "GMO companies" (seems they weren't having any luck using softer monikers) is obviously the last gasp of the befuddled industry's high priced PR machine.

Imagine- one web site with all the misinformation, half-truths, bought-and-paid-for government safety statements and industry-prepared studies... all in one place.

Our favorite line?

“We have been accused of purposely hiding information,” Ms. Enright said. “We haven’t done that but now we will open the doors and provide information.”

3 comments:

KimoRosen said...

whats funny after all the testimony og bill 2491, I do not believe anyone's minds are changed including the county council.

Ironically council members knew (know)exactly how they were going to vote even before the first testimony.

So what's my point, the public testimony was one big political dog and pony show staged by the 7 member council.

KatieH said...

I don't think that Andy claimed anyone's mind had changed. What has changed is the fact that the voting public now knows that the current regulations, meant to be enforced by the federal and state government, are inadequate to regulate the industry and are also underfunded/understaffed. If they do not act to change that, the public will vote accordingly. Everything has changed now that the practices of the seed companies have been exposed.

KimoRosen said...

I never said Andy claimed anyone's mind changed. That's what I said as a comment.